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My partner and I are going through a rough patch and I told her I want a separation. I was pretty involved in the care of her mother who has Alzheimer’s but I broke off all contact in May because her mom mistreated me. She has had to pick up all the slack because her sister doesn’t help. She recently had to fire the caregiver because of an incident that happened and has no replacement yet.



Despite us being on bad terms and me not even talking to her mom in months she asked if I can - at least temporarily - help her with her mom because she is overwhelmed.



I didn’t want to do it BEFORE the separation. I don’t want to do it now. I am starting to feel guilty a little because even though I want to split up I don’t know if it is right to watch her struggle to care for her mom. On the other hand, I couldn’t care less what happens to her mom right now.



What would you do in my situation? Should I just suck it up for a month?

No. Not your circus, not your monkey. If you're serious about splitting up and moving forward, just say no.
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Just say no.
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I would be honest with her and tell her how caring for her mom in the first place influenced your decision about separating.

Then, I might tell her to call a few caregiver agencies to help out in the interim and wish her luck on finding a new permanent caregiver. Or you could suggest placement in a facility for her mom.

Be honest with yourself too. You know that you don’t want to be in this situation anymore. It wouldn’t end well if you caved in to your ex partner’s request.

You don’t owe her anything, not even an explanation if you don’t want to go into detail. I think that you are feeling empathy for your ex in this situation, not necessarily guilt.

You’re not talking about a child who deserves love from both parents. She can hire someone to help with caring for her mom.
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It seemed MIL needs to be in facility care from your previous messages. I would be concerned for your ex but would not want to enable your ex continuing to care for her mom at home.
Perhaps MIL could go in respite care while your ex takes some personal time and finds her a home.
I know this must be a tough decision to make.
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Your comment about the Mother mistreating you leads me to assume being involved would not suit either you at all.

You can show kindness & help in other ways to your now-ex IF you felt that was best eg offer to drop in a takeaway meal or some groceries. But you will have to weigh carefully any positives against any extra tension & unpleasantness.

What about no. Kind, honest & firm.

I am very sorry you have this tough situation.
No, I cannot provide care duties for your Mother.
I trust you will find the right care solutions soon.
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No. Doing it for a month is just propping up something that has already been proved to be unsustainable. It gives her respite but delays the decision that needs to be made.

If you are really willing to do this, you need a serious deadline with specific goals. Something like three days:
Day 1 - Partner gets a good night’s sleep to prepare for decision making.
Day 2 - Partner lists alternatives with pros and cons and makes initial choice (most likely Medicaid facility care unless financial resources are abundant).
Day 3 - Partner confirms and implements plan.

Frankly, I’d sooner pay a professional caregiver and limit my participation to being the person that they call first during the three days rather than do it myself if I were in your position. My priorities and resources may be different, and I’d hopefully act as a gesture of goodwill in memory of better times rather than guilt.

Maybe offer to fund half of the first week of respite care. I agree that less personal involvement is probably better at this point.
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You have choices ,

1) You do not have to help at all . You can tell your partner you are sorry she’s overwhelmed but she will have to find another solution.

2) You can help by running some errands and dropping off some food for a limited time , but you are not obligated to do anything .

3) OR…..If you are looking for reconciliation you could offer to help with a hard deadline of her placing her mother in a facility . And by help, you should not do the hands on caregiving . You could come over and make some meals , do some cleaning and laundry, errands , grocery shopping .
Explain that it is not a good idea for you to do any hands on caregiving considering how you were treated . Don’t be left alone with this woman . You don’t need her accusing you of anything .
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I wouldn't care for my MIL even if there wasn't a split.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jan 24, 2024
olddude,

We can always count on you to tell us how you feel without beating around the bush. I love it!
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No way. Sounds like ex MIL needs to be placed in a facility.

This is your ex's problem, don't get involved, once you are pulled into her web you will not get out easily.

She is your Ex....E X P A N D on it.
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No. I would not. This will confuse your separation. Not at all a good idea. You didn't create this problem and it isn't yours to fix. Wish her luck and stay out of it.
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It never ceases to amaze me the nerve people have. My ex MIL treated me like dirt under her expensive shoes. I would've cared for her when hell froze over, let me tell you. Abusive behavior warrants NO GUILT on your behalf and certainly no caregiving services either. This ship has sailed for your ex and her mother.
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Nope. Time to hit the road, jack. Girlfriend's gotta go, mack. Make a new track, zack.

Her slightly bizarre and cheeky request tells you who this ex of yours really is. Believe it.
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Personally, I believe that I would think twice about considering a reconciliation with your ex.

She knows that her mom mistreated you and now she is asking for you to go back into the line of fire. This is a red flag for sure.
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Are you talking about a permanent separation or a respite separation?

Your ex is overwhelmed and what you do now will determine if it is permanent or not. What is your long term plan with a separation?

Personally, I would help my partner with planning a new plan and helping it be implemented, I don't think abandoning her now is a kind thing to do, even though you want a separation doesn't she mean anything to you? If not, get a divorce and cut the tie completely, she doesn't need more grief at this stage of her life but, if you still care, help her get mom placed and be her friend right now.

Your MIL has a broken brain and your partner is trying to do ?? the right thing, what mom wants ?? Help her break whatever cycle has you both in this position.
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You can give her some advice, moral support if you want, but I would not walk into that minefield of emotion.

Talking about, dealing with, my MIL is the ONE THING that keeps me and my DH apart, emotionally and physically and mentally. He puts her first and I feel it, and know it--and know why--but it's very hard to be the last person on the list.

I do not, and will not, help in the physical care of my MIL. I walked out 4 years ago and have not and will not go back.

Do NOT walk back in to that.

Esp if MIL knows you're splitting up. While that would thrill MY MIL to pieces, it would come at such a cost.
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NeedHelpWithMom Jan 24, 2024
So very happy that you divorced your MIL years ago. She wasn’t ever kind to you or anyone else. No one deserves to be abused.
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Regardless of whether this separation is permanent or not, do not step back into that situation with your MIL. That your soon-to-be-ex enables her mother is her choice, not yours, and we all must live with the choices we make. For example, when one spouse chooses their parent over their spouse, that's a choice; as is the other spouse putting up with it. You've decided you don't want to put up with it anymore. Stick with your decision because wafting in and out of your old life will not help you move on and decide your future.
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Don’t do it. This will not end well for you.
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Your ex needs to place her Mom if she can no longer care for her. This is not really your problem. You could say your willing to help on your terms but only until she gets her Mom placed. It takes 3 months to apply for Medicaid and get them the info needed. I was lucky, I started the application mid April. Mom entered LTC May 1st and private paid May and June, I confirmed spend down and that all info was received in June her Medicaid started July 1st.

Your ex can do the same thing. Use whatever money Moms has to place her and when almost gone apply for Medicaid. You can give her a date that you will help till then. But as u can see, most of the members think you are right not to get involved at all.
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“No”.
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In a word...NO!!!!!

If you are feeling generous to the ex maybe offer to run some errands for her but absolutely no in person contact with MIL. Does she know MIL's treatment of you helped in your decision to end the marriage?
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Bottom line if you don't want to do this then don't.

If you and your ex-partners mother were on good terms and you wanted to do this do it ONLY if you have a contract in place and you are paid for your services as a caregiver at the normal rate for the are where you live.

She can hire another caregiver.
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I wouldn’t provide care to my MIL and I’m in a good relationship with my spouse. Caregiving is hard enough with a person who’s kind and cooperative, someone you like, but when it’s a person you don’t like or mistreats you, it’s definitely a pass. I’d hope you move on with your life and put this in the rear view
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if you’re not legally married, this woman isn’t your mother-in-law. Stop thinking of her that way.

People get married to make their relationship legal, thus the “in-law” part. They sometimes remain unmarried because they don’t want the obligations. Maybe that was you. So walk.
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MiaMoor May 12, 2024
I don't agree with that, but then I think of marriage as just a bit of paper.

A partnership involves as much as a marriage does. However, there is no reason to look after MiL - it wouldn't be in anyone's best interests. MiL needs to be placed in some sort of residential care, so don't put off the inevitable.

But, dropping off grocery, prescriptions etc. could be a kindness that helps while arrangements are being made for placement.
If ex won't do that, then leave her to flounder; eventually, she'll call social services for help.
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I think this would be a bad idea. First reason--if she is already saying "at least temporarily", you know it won't be over in a month. Second reason--the abuse. Caring for someone who's been abusive isn't a good situation for either you or her. Third reason--this is incredibly hard even when both partners are working together well and in complete agreement that this is what they want to be doing. It's a very emotional undertaking. Every little disagreement has explosive potential.

It really sounds like it's time for the mother to be cared for by professionals. The do-it-yourself method doesn't seem to be working and you stepping back in will only serve to prolong the situation.
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That's a hard no for me.

I would not step back into a toxic situation.

Most toxic situations are easy to get into and hard to get out of.

The sister needs to help until a caregiver is found.

All due respect, no harm intended, wishing all the best, but no.
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I wouldn't suck it up for a month.

Your partner needs to figure it out. You are not the solution to the problem.
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Nope. Don't do it, you already said mom mistreated you. Red flags all over this
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taimedowne: Your answer should be 'No, I cannot do it.'
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No way!!!! Run the other way. She is in dire need of help but you should not do it.
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How did you get along with your MIL? Did your MIL ever do something for you? If you and your MIL got along great, I'd help out, just a few days a week, for your MIL's sake.

On the other hand, if you and your MIL were distant or strained (in addition to the mis-treatment in May), I would NOT do anything. Alzheimer’s means that your MIL could do a lot of mean things, just because her brain is broken.

As for your ex or soon to be ex, it is always a struggle. Just some struggles are worse than others. If you do not work through the struggle, the struggle will come back over and over again.

Sometimes, life really sucks....
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