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"He wants to move south and go gold mining in the hills of Lake Havasu"? Sounds pretty good to me. Buy him a bus ticket, and give it to him. He can choose.
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Your father is obviously suffering from dementia and has no way of 'going gold mining in the hills of Lake Havasu', let's face it. Therefore, since it's literally impossible for your dad to leave, I wouldn't be worried about 'legally' stopping him from doing something he can't do to begin with.

I would, however, get him placed in a Skilled Nursing Facility immediately. You need to take your HUSBAND'S serious health issues into consideration and realize that the stress your father is creating in your household is hurting him.

Caring for your father for 8+ years at home is ENOUGH. He can go into a SNF or an Assisted Living Facility and 'order' his meals precisely the way he wants them THERE. And let's see how that works out for him.

I was a care giver to an elderly man who suffered from Alzheimer's many years ago. He too would bark out orders about how he wanted his eggs and bacon prepared each morning. And naturally, my eggs & bacon were never perfect, the way they were when he was on the QE2, years ago. I would remind him that this was NOT the QE2 but his kitchen, and my eggs and bacon were perfectly wonderful, thank you very much. After cooking for a family for 30 years, I knew how to make eggs. I wound up taking WAY too much crap from old Gene and quit that job after working for him for about 2 months. He wound up living for 10 more years, believe it or not. He'd also treat me like a slave and a second class citizen, coming after me with his walker raised over his head. Not okay; not from an employer OR from a family member.

Tell your father he will be moving out soon, and then make arrangements to have him do exactly that.

It's time to take care of your immediate family and yourself now. Dad will be in very good hands in residential care and you can go see him every day if you'd like.

Good luck and all the best moving forward
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Sondra27 Jun 2020
Dearest Lealonnie,
Thank you,
I have been at my wits end, and just to have the support, is truly a blessing. Thank you for all the good advice.
I will look into a skilled nursing facility. I know they are expensive and there’s a waiting list. I don’t know if the VA would pay for it or not.
I need to shake the guilt. I know I’ve done nothing wrong, but it’s been drilled into me by him of course that I had to take care of him. Every time he doesn’t get his way he tells us to get him a plane ticket! And he’s out of here and we’ll never hear from him again!
i will do some calling around tomorrow and see what I can find out. Thank you with all my heart for your support!
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Are you for real? It sounds like you have spoiled your father rotten. And you’ve already had seven family members telling you that would be my guess. What could we possibly say that will wake you?

Let him plan his trip without interference. Maybe it will keep him occupied. If he is not incompetent to make his own decisions then he can. Age alone is not a reason to hold someone against their will.

It sounds like he has been propped up so much he is delusional but couid he pass a competency test?

If he is deemed competent, you would need guardianship to stop him and then it could be hard. Who controls his finances?
I suspect once you let go of your end of the rope, he will forget about it.

The first rule of the game is if you quit playing, game over. His game seems to be called “How quick can I bring daughter to tears.”

Do not cook him another bite would be my advise. Hand him a protein drink if you must and say “Enjoy” and walk away. You don’t need to engage in conversation. You already know what he has to say. Quit trying to argue with someone who has dementia. Plenty of old people live on their own and don’t cook and don’t take their meds correctly if at all. He doesn’t sound like the sort who will miss out on too many creature comforts.

While he’s planning his trip, you start researching alternate housing for him.

No one can stop this madness but you. Go to therapy. Post often here. Do something for yourself BEFORE you do another thing for him. Let me amend that. Do something for yourself and your dear husband before you do another thing for him. You are giving him all your power and all your emotional energy.

And it’s not making anyone happy is it?

Start with the basics. Please and thank you. Respectful tone. Genuine appreciation. And in case you don’t understand, that would be coming from him to you. Otherwise ignore him.

You are not his servant. Quit acting like you are and you are afraid you’ll be kicked out of the house and won’t be able to feed your six grown children if you lose your job.

Its the old proverbial “tail wagging the dog”. He needs you, not the other way around.

Sondra, what are you afraid of after all?

I hope someone answers this post with words that will bring you out of the trance. I know it’s hard to turn your back but not as hard as what you’ve been doing.
Good luck.
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Buffytwmo49 Jun 2020
I would arrange ew living arrangements for him and the next time he yelled at me would be his last. Give him fair warning and then load the car and out he goes. He will learn to be respectful one way or other. I know I sound mean but have taken care of my mother and her way or highway. Learned really quick.
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Sondra27,
1) what do you want as an outcome?
2) what are you legally able to do?

For your poor husband's sake I would rehome your father into a nice care facility whether he wants to go there or not. Your first obligation is to your husband and children, not your father. No where in your profile or post do you mention the word "dementia". Yet, he has the hallmarks of it.

Are you his only child? If you have siblings you need to have a family conference about when and how to get him placed in a NH. Does anyone have Power of Attorney for him? If no, and if he won't assign it and if he already has enough cognitive decline that he won't know what Power of Attorney is, then your only recourse will be to pursue guardianship of him through the courts. If you/some one in your family doesn't pursue it, the county eventually will and you/your family will have no power, no say in where he goes and what care he his given.

You also need to bring yourself up to speed on his mental decline. Teepa Snow has some very informative videos on YouTube. I suggest you watch them, as I think you are somewhat in denial since you can't seem to interact with him as a person with a broken mind, as opposed to who he used to be (your pre-dementia father).

Start with getting durable PoA if you can. Who is paying his bills or managing his financial affairs? You will need to know what assets he has so you know whether to apply for Medicaid for him or not. Does anyone go to the doctor with him? Take him for a medical exam and have the doctor give him a cognitive assessment so that you know what you're dealing with. Start researching local facilities. Don't tell him anything about moving, don't react to his mistreatment of you (he can't help it). Walk out of the room, or just don't respond. Don't respond to any talk about him leaving or goldmining. Save your energies for creating a transition plan and all that needs to go into. In a care community he will have much more socialization and activities and get all the medical care he needs, while you can go visit him as often as you want, and your home can come out of the chaos and your husband gets his wife back. I wish you all the best...let us know how it goes and come back with more questions as they come up.
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