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Jam, what is "col"? Sorry, I don't know all the lingo. I did get FIL and MIL though!
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hey All. Hope all have had a peaceful afternoon.

Mom made it through the night, I came home this morning, took the morning meds and a sleeping pill and I have been out of it all day, one blessing about getting the sleeping pill yesterday, got a solid 8 hours of sleep, hubby said the phone rang a couple of times, never did hear it..lol..

Brother is over there right now, and he will just get to stay there for a while more, her meds are all laid out through 530, so I don't have to worry about that. Reminded him one more time that he doesn't need to get into the pill boxes.

I guess that most of my feelings last night were frustrations to see her in pain and know that there was nothing I could do about it. She's getting less and less stable on her feet, she can sit barely on the bed and can't swing herself any further in, I have to get her up on the bed as best as possible, have her lay down and then use a sheet I put under her to move her further away from the edge.

I dread the day that the diapers have to come into play, just trying to move her now hurts her, I'm unable to lift her, so even trying to guide her to the bed side is a risk.

Waiting for hubby to get back from town, we'll have a bite to eat together and then I will go start my night. Hope that we hear from the insurance company on what it is their wanting for them to give us information about the possibility of getting help in, so that brother and I get at least one whole day a week off.

Talk with everyone sometime this evening.
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Hang in there,and hope is a coming god bless u both, Oh and keep coming back here it does help just to write it down helps,take care johnnycares
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Thank you for not commenting to much,but believe me that you have help out so much with you know-age of going thru your road trip,thank you so much,hugs and stars 4 u.,johnnycares
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I like to read what other are going thru,because it does help,My dear wife tells me Oh are you going to talk with the other women? And she does this all the time,I tell her yes because these are for you. Then she will ask me well what do they say and I will answer that are concern about us. She then will say how nice you guys are and you really are,thank you johnnycares and wife betty
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Tell Betty hello and give her a BIG HUG from us!!!!!!

onacliff.....that is what I call my mil.....crazy old lady.....it's all done with affection. She laughs whenever she hears me say it.

starri....yippee for lots of sleep! And now hubby time....woohoo!

Still reading.....will post more. Sometimes I do this a little at a time so I won't forget anything.....those are my senior moments....:)

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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Hey Jam, Hi Johnny, give Betty a great big hug for me, Mom's not doing all that great, she's been doing a lot of spitting up today, has been for the past couple of days, her esophagus is enlarged at the top, so it isn't letting things go down all the time. Her breathing is shallow and her pain is up probably a 7-8.. Nothing can I do.. have talked with hospice got her some new meds in for nausea, but nausea isn't the issue here I believe.

Does anyone have a idea on how to 'use" the bedpan? lol, which end of the pan goes where? I think the short end goes under the butt and the taller end, ends up under the legs.. she's not going to like it I am sure, but told her this afternoon, it's either that or a diaper if she is not able to get out of bed safely to use the restroom.

I actually think I might be able to get through the night without having to drink two pots of coffee. Will check in again later.. hugs to all
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Johnny, to think that your wife would think I am nice has just made my whole day....give her a BIG HUG from me. I haven't been very nice today, so that give me hope !!

Starri......eight whole hours.......woohoo........I am jealous....my meal out with hubby on Tuesday already feels like it was 3 yrs. ago. He took a ride on the bike this afternoon just to get away from hearing mom call MY name all day. Geeez!

Bedpan use: (as I have seen it done ) Put baby powder on the fat rim. Have patient roll to one side as far as possible. Hopefully the entire backside is exposed. If not, slide under as far as necessary. Place pan against buttocks and roll patient to her back, thereby putting her on it. The powder makes it slippery enough to slide and doesn't smell bad either. Hope that helps, and there are 2 sizes of bedpans. You may want her to bend her knees to get in a more familiar position. Fat rim goes under the butt. My mom prefers the small one.

Looks like I am going to bed sooner than I thought. I am saying hello to all the new people who posted today. I read all your posts, but have been busy all day and am worn out. Love to you all and I hope to hear from you again. Good night and may everyone get some sleep...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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You earn your zzzzzzzz rest 4 the next day G N johnnycares
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Betty has some tinkly on her arm and leg n feet hopefully I will not have to call 911 tonight,I gave her some nitro and she feels better. johnnycares.
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Starri, I would suggest the diapers which have the shape of pants (like Tena). They are much more accepted than the ones that have the shape of the diapers for babies... She can go to the bathroom and lower them, so she feels more independent. In the other hand, if she doesn't get to the bathroom, she is protected...
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johnny.....are you saying Betty has tingling in her arm and leg and feet? Why is she taking Nitro? Not being nosy.....oh yes I am....it's the medical side of me coming out....:)
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She was feeling that and I have some here that her heart doctor gave her and I also have some for me,but I am not taking any chances with her condition,Diabetic and all
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Wise words onacliff.....I'm glad you are enjoying these last days, weeks, months with your mother. They will be memories to cherish forever. Not everyone has the good in their life, but it is something that we can hold onto that may be there someday. I'm happy that you haven't left yourself out of the equation, sounds like you know exactly what you and your mother need. Hey, say as little or as much as you want. If you notice, I'm usually pretty long-winded.....:)

Love and Hugz,
Jam
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What do I think about ASG's cat? That she should give the cat to some friend and tell Auntie that the cat escaped. It's not Auntie's fault, but she is really torturing that poor animal. Of course cats don't want to be "fed". They are so independent! That cat will develop some serious mental problems if he stays in Auntie's hands much longer, and he will become so aggressive that you won't manage the situation anymore. So, my advice is: "Away the cat!" (and, please, don't cut his nails!!!)
Ladee, I don't work a lot to accumulate money! I work a lot to pay the bills and I am always full of debts! My mother's helpers cost a lot of money and then you have the heating, the electricity, the taxes, the things that get broken and you have to call someone to fix them and they earn in one day what I earn in one week. I prefer to spend 90 per cent of my money paying the helpers, because when my mother will not be here anymore, I shall have to work to support myself so I cannot leave my job (if I go out from the "world of translations" now, I won't be able to come back in 2, 3, 10 years, whenever is the time my mother leaves me!) There are very rich people in Italy; not me! And most of the people I know. We have to struggle hard, hard, hard! (just to make an example, I had to pay a 500 dollars bill of electricity and I have to translate 4 films to earn that amount of money!)
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I'm glad Betty is feeling better.......maybe it was that big ol' hug that helped....:)
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I know she always get more then me ,once in a while when we get to visited a place to eat ,she get a full plate and I wind up with half,but I tell them and their rely is that she know how to order better then me. Oh well it works out because she only eats half so I make out good all the way around.
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Ladee, sent you a message on fb, love ya :0)
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hey ASG, having a hard time here this morning and don't know what to do, Mom has been having trouble getting up and down to the toilet, finally this morning she said she could not do it, I tried getting the bedpan under her, I can't lift her, so I tried getting a diaper on her, she can't roll on her back, I can't lift her so I barely got it in a place that it might work... I just don't know what to do.. Sitting here crying my eyes out isn't going to solve anything... any words of advice?
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ladeeda, wow, holy shit, didn't mean to make anyone mad. Read back at what I said! I said "I opened my mouth and told her we didn't need to hold the cat over the bowel to eat, it would eat when its hungry." She's afraid its not getting enough, she thinks he looks lanky. So, since you are a cat person can you tell me how much you feed your cat? I really was asking. Rosella, by cutting the cats nails I don't mean getting her declawed. The groomers will clip the tips off, like you do dogs nails, or human finger nails it grows back. This cats claws are really long and sharp, it has a scratching post. It keeps getting them caught up in the carpet and curtains and it causes her pain. Ok i won't talk anymore about the cat! It really is a spoiled cat in some ways, its overly coddled, she buys everything for it under the sun. I still think its better than the box I found it in, in the middle of winter, in a warehouse. Crying its poor little head off. Ok NOW, I won't talk any more about the cat. Hugs to everyone. Its late and I don't have the energy to catch up. Welcome to the thread new people.
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Starri, yes I'm here,
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Do you have any of those large square wet pads?
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Ok, one more question. I'm trying to picture your situation in my head so I can help you. You said she can't roll on her back? Does she just not have the strength to? Or is she having pain in her back?
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Starri, call hospice right now and let them know you are having these problems, they should send someone out right away to help you, and to teach you how to do this on your own... It is hard for us to explain how to get a diaper on her. Are you using the ones with tabs? they are easier than pull ups, and hospice should have supplied you with these.. That is what hospice is for, call them right now, they are on call 24/7 to help you... let us know..
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ASG, I am not mad, I am frustrated. I sent you a message on FB and thank you for sharing with me today.. It helped me a lot to understand.. Read my message and then we will talk more tomorrow, I'm heading to bed... love ya , and I mean that with all my heart.. .
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Hi, ASG, Hi Ladeeda, believe it or not it's 3AM and I am at home, I believe my brother finally figured out that I am spending a average of 16 hours over there per day..lol, he came over at 230..asked him what the hell he was doing out of bed at that hour. So I filled him in on what was going on with her, left instructions for both to call me if there was a problem, half way got a diaper on her, have one of those pads you put underneath them on the bed, along with a blanket under her and a sheet sideways for helping to move her. Right now, when I left, she was settled in and I am hoping going to sleep some.

She has disc's that are out in her back, causes severe pain if we have to get her on her back for something. She's nothing but skin pulled over bone now. Just trying to move her at all causes her pain.

Will wait and see if I get a call out of those two, and if I do will call hospice then, otherwise it's a call in the morning to see about someone coming out, sounds like we have a bad storm coming in.

Talk with you ladies later this afternoon, thank you for all your help.

For the lady asking about what to feed the cat? on the bag/can of food they have the recommended amounts to feed them based I believe on their weight. Most cats mine included look like they haven't eaten in days... I personally just keep a bowl of cat food out, and she eats when she wants.. She is a serious little piggie, she will be home, have her treats and eat cat food, and it isn't 20 minutes later she's over at Mom's eating again.

On the nails? if she/he is a indoor cat all the time, go ahead and clip them, will save the furniture, but if she/he goes outside at all, then I would leave them, they need those for self defense.

Take care all...sleepy time for me.
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Come on sleeping pill...lol, I hate to wait for these to kick in..just wound up right now, truly wasn't expecting the brother to show up at 230 AM, he should not be wandering around at night, he can't see in the dark. Going to need to figure out a way to get the times set where he isn't coming over in the dark.. That is going to be a tough one as the kid crashes out about 7pm.. he wakes early, but doesn't need to go wandering around in the dark.. I think for today, I will have hubby come relieve him at 1 and then I will be over there at 5pm and take over from there. Come Monday I will be calling her insurance company myself and find out what the problem is with them telling us what kinda benefits are available for someone to come in and help.

Maybe I can sweet talk the hubby into picking up at least a couple of days shifts per week for now, that can be worked into my brother getting a whole day off and me as well. Feels like the sleeping pill is finally trying to kick in..
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Starri, Please call hospice when you get up and get them over there with advice and help. You have enough to worry about without bro wandering around, but is so sweet to know you have a sibling who cares, bless his heart. What a trouper.

Johnny, Here is a BIG HUG just for you {{{HUG}}}

ASG...missed a story yesterday. Guess you were busy. Tell me to get a life instead of living yours, I know. But you have such interestsing things going on and I just sit here.

8 am and I am about to get a shower myself and start working on a veggie platter for the wedding shower next door. Think I will ask to keep her little dog here, only way I can get some dog lovin. One day...I will be complaining about my two Old English Sheepdogs getting into everything, but not for a while.......

Mom was up 12 times from 8pm to 7am this morning. I got 1 hr 45 min of sleep at one time. That was the most. Next was 1 and a half hrs. and I couldn't even get to sleep until midnight. Already have a headache this morning.

Mom is up, so I am done for quite a while. Will come back later.............
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starri, I nearly cried reading your post. I remember how inept and panicked I felt at first, even after aides showing me how to change a diaper. Hopefully you have hospice on the way now, but when you have a few minutes (ha), you can google "how to change and adult diaper" and see videos. It's hard to write it all down for you, and you will benefit more from seeing it done than from reading it. The first one I pulled up to look at for you is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4MeL6r0UPE There is a long commercial at first for a book, but then she gives some great advice. Be sure to protect your back!! If you have an electric bed, bring it up to as high as your waist so you don't bend down and hurt your back. When rolling her, keep your back straight--use your leg and stomach muscles. Again, do not damage your back! You are probably unprepared for this and maybe don't have the diapers and pads that hospice can supply, but I hope you do. I bought some washable pads to use under the disposable ones that hospice supplies. I hope you are using a drawsheet too. The drawsheet and pads have been wonderful tools to help me move Mother side to side, and to get her back up to the head of the bed when she scoots down. Again, hospice can show you how it's done. You will get this and be a pro before long. I speak from experience, trust me. Praying for you!
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Good Morning Posse!!!

Hope everyone had a good night's sleep.......we know starri did after the sleeping pill kicked in. Bless your brother.....big-hearted and full of love for his momma.......and I hope you will get hospice in soon for more help.

onacliff.....very good suggestions.....and yes remember to NOT use your back. Difficult to do, because the tendency is to always use it, I told myself that every day I worked and now I'm retired with a back injury. Didn't listen very well, did I?

Visited with the col yesterday, not coming home yet. Her memory is non-existent until you tell her something and then it's oh yes I know that. She was playing Bingo and got up to show us to her room, just like she was ushering us into her parlor! She likes to show us the star on her door with her name in it. She doesn't have a clue that it means "falling star".....she's a fall risk. Since they have had her playing games I am going to buy a Yahtzee and Bingo game....maybe I can continue the habit. She will not be allowed to just sit and watch CNN all day.....I may put that channel on parental lock. Her coffee consumption has also been cut way back and I finally convinced hubby yesterday, that with trying to "settle her down" why are we giving her back a stimulant of a 12-cup pot of coffee? So she now has a new 5-cup Mr. Coffee. The new keyed dead bolt will go in this weekend....praying for no rain on Monday so the fence can be finished. They are starting her on Depakote, we'll see how she does on that. We said no to Zyprexa, which she had been on all last year and didn't seem to do anything for her. The doc didn't mention the Exelon patch, so my thinking is that they aren't going to be concerned with memory because it's gone and there is nothing that is going to bring it back. I can deal with that.

Hope everyone has a beautiful day.................

Love and Hugz to all,
Jam
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